2021-22 Basketball Schedule

[orangetennis]

Agree with this and I'll be shocked to see Carter start ahead of Pick unless there are injuries complicating things. I really hope that Henry is developing into something but it hasn't shown on the court yet. I was really hopeful he would be the next Phyfe but that is probably an unrealistic expectation for him.

Henry and Phyfe do not have similar games nor do they have similar body types. Henry was never going to be the next Phyfe. It's realistic to think he can be Phyfe`s backup and even his replacement after Austin leaves Cedar Falls but he won't be the next Phyfe.
I still expect Cole to have a meaningful career at UNI but it will be tough for him to crack this season's lineup for many minutes.

[orangetennis]

If his 5-8 minutes per night can help you win games now, you win games now. This is the year you're loaded up for.

5 years ago you're dead on that you redshirt him and get his age 23 season instead of his age 19 season. There are just too many outside factors pushing and pulling kids that you don't take the chance that his eyes start to wander. The only kids you are going to see redshirt at this point are kids that are true projects or have bodies that aren't ready. Duax doesn't fall into either camp plus big, physical advanced wing defenders are SO valuable in the Valley.

This may have been true 18 months ago but 2020 happened and things change. I love Duax' game too and can't wait to see him play for UNI but unless he's something really special he would be wasting a season by playing this year.
You may be right and he doesn't red shirt this season but that doesn't mean it's the best thing to do. He would be competing against 23 year olds not only on the court but also for playing time. It's a shortsighted, reckless use of his eligibility.

[BCPanther]

This may have been true 18 months ago but 2020 happened and things change. I love Duax' game too and can't wait to see him play for UNI but unless he's something really special he would be wasting a season by playing this year.
You may be right and he doesn't red shirt this season but that doesn't mean it's the best thing to do. He would be competing against 23 year olds not only on the court but also for playing time. It's a shortsighted, reckless use of his eligibility.

5 years ago, I would have 100% agreed with you. The world has changed especially for kids that are going to make money playing this game eventually. Kids at his level don't come to sit. The comp is Anderson last year. Even without the injury and the free year he was going to play and would not have had a ton of minutes throughout the year and his game was nowhere near as close to ready as Duax's is.

The kids that are going to sit are your projects and bodies that aren't ready (i.e Henry, Courbat, Wolf). Hell, James Betz played right away and in hindsight we know he wasn't quite as polished as he appeared to be.

[A Fan In Lean Years]

The world has changed especially for kids that are going to make money playing this game eventually.

I DO occasionally post things that we can discuss; this is one.

I'm still very ignorant as to how all of this plays out (my understanding was that (1) athletes can unionize and (2) can be paid royalties on merchandise with their names on it) but if it gets to where they are paid salaries, how will colleges and universities possibly be able to compete with the private, highly endowed colleges and universities? Assuming that that happens as I'm guessing, will the "power conferences" begin to then shift over time?

Too much for my feeble brain to be able to calculate.

[sivert]

5 years ago, I would have 100% agreed with you. The world has changed especially for kids that are going to make money playing this game eventually...

You should change this to "5 DAYS ago...make money playing this game NOW IN COLLEGE."

https://www.panthernation.com/forum/panther-nation/panther-sports-lounge/708703-supreme-court-rules-against-the-ncaa

[DownGoesKansas]

I DO occasionally post things that we can discuss; this is one.

I'm still very ignorant as to how all of this plays out (my understanding was that (1) athletes can unionize and (2) can be paid royalties on merchandise with their names on it) but if it gets to where they are paid salaries, how will colleges and universities possibly be able to compete with the private, highly endowed colleges and universities? Assuming that that happens as I'm guessing, will the "power conferences" begin to then shift over time?

Too much for my feeble brain to be able to calculate.

I have no idea how it is going to play out. But the answer is probably donors. The same reason we can pay a coach around a million dollars.

[SteinPizza]

I have no idea how it is going to play out. But the answer is probably donors. The same reason we can pay a coach around a million dollars.

My understanding is the schools aren’t paying the athletes anything directly, so it’s not a salary per se’. Name and likeness is more of a commission on sold jerseys, ads with a player’s picture or endorsement, etc. AJ Green endorses Derry Brothers, or his picture is on one of their billboards, etc. Someone correct me if wrong, but the schools will probably not have much direct involvement in any of that, other than bringing the players in in the first place, and attempting to enforce whatever compliance standards are in place (that last part will be a laughable joke, particularly in the cesspool that is men’s basketball).

Curious to get others read on this.

[A Fan In Lean Years]

My understanding is the schools aren’t paying the athletes anything directly, so it’s not a salary per se’. Name and likeness is more of a commission on sold jerseys, ads with a player’s picture or endorsement, etc. AJ Green endorses Derry Brothers, or his picture is on one of their billboards, etc. Someone correct me if wrong, but the schools will probably not have much direct involvement in any of that, other than bringing the players in in the first place, and attempting to enforce whatever compliance standards are in place (that last part will be a laughable joke, particularly in the cesspool that is men’s basketball).

Curious to get others read on this.

I mentioned that above. I'm just wondering how it plays out.

[sivert]

My understanding is the schools aren’t paying the athletes anything directly, so it’s not a salary per se’. Name and likeness is more of a commission on sold jerseys, ads with a player’s picture or endorsement, etc. AJ Green endorses Derry Brothers, or his picture is on one of their billboards, etc. Someone correct me if wrong, but the schools will probably not have much direct involvement in any of that, other than bringing the players in in the first place, and attempting to enforce whatever compliance standards are in place (that last part will be a laughable joke, particularly in the cesspool that is men’s basketball).

Curious to get others read on this.

States, schools, and coaches have been moving toward allowing NameImageLikeness this summer, with several schools moving forward on that. (Iowa had a bill to allow it, but it didn't pass.) Nevertheless, many players across the country will be profiting from NIL this year.

Just this week, the Supreme Court ruled that schools could give a kid a laptop and a paid internship while on athletic scholarship. AND at the same time, at least one justice (BK) said that he doesn't think that it's legal for the NCAA to prohibit schools from outright paying players.

Now, the question will be whether any player in a state like Iowa wants to go ahead and take NIL money (e.g., AJ doing a billboard for Deery). After getting clubbed by the Supreme Court this week, it is REALLY hard to imagine that the NCAA would go after AJ for doing an ad for NIL, but not go after a Georgia player. In my view, the SCOTUS has disarmed the NCAA completely with regard to NIL and it's now open season everywhere. Maybe I should call AJ and see if he wants to do an ad for me...

[UNIpanther99]

Maybe I should call AJ and see if he wants to do an ad for me...

I think this is the key part where the NCAA may still have a role. Do we really want business propositions made to athletes at any time? Can Derry (for example) just show up at a kid's dorm room? Wait outside the locker room after games? Without having an agent, is there some official method for these requests? If the schools have to stay completely out of it, it could get really messy.

[Big Cats]

. After getting clubbed by the Supreme Court this week, it is REALLY hard to imagine that the NCAA would go after AJ for doing an ad for NIL, but not go after a Georgia player..

Yes, but it's the NCAA. As Jerry Tarkanian once said "The NCAA is so upset by Kentucky's rules violations that they're going to put Cleveland State on probation for 2 more years."

[BCPanther]

Unconfirmed rumors from the Marshall board that the game out there is November 30.

Makes sense to pair it with the trip to St Bonaventure, about a 10 hour drive between the two and I'm guessing the budget says save the flight this year. Breaking it into a two day drive wouldn't be too bad as long as you get a practice/recovery session in the morning after the St Bonaventure game.

Tough road trip if true but we've got the group to handle it.

Edit: Holy crap is St Bonaventure in the middle of nowhere. Closest decent sized city is Ottawa.

[BrockLesnar]

Unconfirmed rumors from the Marshall board that the game out there is November 30.

Makes sense to pair it with the trip to St Bonaventure, about a 10 hour drive between the two and I'm guessing the budget says save the flight this year. Breaking it into a two day drive wouldn't be too bad as long as you get a practice/recovery session in the morning after the St Bonaventure game.

Tough road trip if true but we've got the group to handle it.

Edit: Holy crap is St Bonaventure in the middle of nowhere. Closest decent sized city is Ottawa.

Ah yes, Allegany, NY, back of the woods like Dartmouth College.

[UNIpanther99]

To be fair - it's an hour and a half from Buffalo. Cedar Falls is a lot further from any city that size.

[Panther Fan]

To be fair - it's an hour and a half from Buffalo. Cedar Falls is a lot further from any city that size.

I've been to Buffalo and it felt smaller than Des Moines. It's been about 15 years ago but the downtown was not nearly as nice as Des Moines. The fact they have an NFL team (and NHL) masks the size. People realize Green Bay is not a typical NFL town, but Buffalo is a lot more like Green Bay than any other city.