Coaching Search...who's next? lets hear all the wild speculation

[achrist70]

Truthfully, I don't think it's the NIL he has a problem with. It's the transfer situation.

I agree with this, a big part of his formula for success involved Jed Smith, and having a quality coaching staff that could build players to be contributors for year 3,4 and 5 in the program. He got quite a few players to the league with that formula as well. Now a bigger program can come in a make "promises" to a player and lure them away, without necessarily fulfilling those promises. I think about Omar Brown, he was a stud for us, leaves and goes to Nebraska, sits on the bench for about a year and a half, then finally get a chance because of injury, and now is at least on a practice squad in the NFL. I don't think he really helped his stock by going to Nebraska.

[BCPanther]

I agree with this, a big part of his formula for success involved Jed Smith, and having a quality coaching staff that could build players to be contributors for year 3,4 and 5 in the program. He got quite a few players to the league with that formula as well. Now a bigger program can come in a make "promises" to a player and lure them away, without necessarily fulfilling those promises. I think about Omar Brown, he was a stud for us, leaves and goes to Nebraska, sits on the bench for about a year and a half, then finally get a chance because of injury, and now is at least on a practice squad in the NFL. I don't think he really helped his stock by going to Nebraska.

Xavier Williams would have been a mid-round draft pick if he'd have stayed. Never saw the field in Iowa City.

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Northwest Missouri fired their coach today.

And why would we want to go after a guy that got fired at D2 for losing?

He isn't the coach that made them the premier D2 program and won them 3 titles in 4 years between 2013 and 2017. That was built by That was Mel Tjeerdsma, who retired after 2010 and winning titles in in 98 98 09 and conference titles 96 97 98 99 00 02 03 06 07 08 09 10. Adam Dorrel took over in 2011 and won the conference in 13 14 15 16 18 19 and national titles in 13 15 16. He left after 2016 to go transition ACU from D2 to D1 and failed miserably going 19-32 with his best season being his second season going 6-5. He is now at Central Oklahoma in the D2 world again, where is knows what to do and in his third season has taken them from a below average D2 program to D-1 and ranked in the top 10 while being name COY. Ironically doing so in the same conference at NWMOST. UCO announced a D1 feasibility study less than 2 months ago. It will be interesting to see if he sticks around through that.

Rich Wright never made it past the second round of the playoffs. Yes, he won 3 conference titles riding Tjeerdsma and Dorrel's program but he was handed a Koenigsegg Jesko and turned it into an Oldsmobile Alero in 7 years. He went 7-4 and 6-5 the last two years now that the program is fully his, his players, his coaches, his everything. Finished tied for 5th both years.

Maybe you weren't saying to go after him, but I don't know why else that would be brought up. I'm assuming you just saw the news and assumed it was one of the previous NWMOST coaches, but Rich Wright ain't that guy.

['70 Grad]

That Josh Davis certainly seems to check a lot of boxes.

[pantherclaw]

And why would we want to go after a guy that got fired at D2 for losing?

He isn't the coach that made them the premier D2 program and won them 3 titles in 4 years between 2013 and 2017. That was built by That was Mel Tjeerdsma, who retired after 2010 and winning titles in in 98 98 09 and conference titles 96 97 98 99 00 02 03 06 07 08 09 10. Adam Dorrel took over in 2011 and won the conference in 13 14 15 16 18 19 and national titles in 13 15 16. He left after 2016 to go transition ACU from D2 to D1 and failed miserably going 19-32 with his best season being his second season going 6-5. He is now at Central Oklahoma in the D2 world again, where is knows what to do and in his third season has taken them from a below average D2 program to D-1 and ranked in the top 10 while being name COY. Ironically doing so in the same conference at NWMOST. UCO announced a D1 feasibility study less than 2 months ago. It will be interesting to see if he sticks around through that.

Rich Wright never made it past the second round of the playoffs. Yes, he won 3 conference titles riding Tjeerdsma and Dorrel's program but he was handed a Koenigsegg Jesko and turned it into an Oldsmobile Alero in 7 years. He went 7-4 and 6-5 the last two years now that the program is fully his, his players, his coaches, his everything. Finished tied for 5th both years.

Maybe you weren't saying to go after him, but I don't know why else that would be brought up. I'm assuming you just saw the news and assumed it was one of the previous NWMOST coaches, but Rich Wright ain't that guy.

I was one of the ones who suggested NWMOST coach initially not realizing till the post that he had been fired that yeah he’s been on a downward slide last few years

[UNIdad]

Truthfully, I don't think it's the NIL he has a problem with. It's the transfer situation.

It will be interesting (sad) to see the long term effects of teams no longer being able to rely on being developmental programs. It won't be good for the athletes who need the development.

[06panther10]

Xavier Williams would have been a mid-round draft pick if he'd have stayed. Never saw the field in Iowa City.

Yep, he was absolutely awesome here. Was dominating, and already getting draft buzz. Went to Iowa City and was never heard from again.

Has a jersey at home with a B10 patch on it though, hope it was worth it.

[achrist70]

Xavier Williams would have been a mid-round draft pick if he'd have stayed. Never saw the field in Iowa City.

That is the other one, although your talking about Xavior Williams, Xavier Williams graduated from UNI and played in the League for 6 or so years and won a ring with the Chiefs in 2019.

[edgecat]

That is the other one, although you’re talking about Xavior Williams, Xavier Williams graduated from UNI and played in the League for 6 or so years and won a ring with the Chiefs in 2019.

Don’t confuse these guys for Xavier Williams, FR Iowa Runningback that essentially took Titus Cram’s Iowa ride

[CincyPanther88]

In a way I’m glad it was the dumpster fire because another .500 season or less would have kept him around for the last two years of his contract (and possibly longer). Farley isn’t a big fan of the NIL and transfer portal, and failing to adopt to that would have resulted in two more years of mediocre football. The game has changed, and if coaches and ADs can’t adopt to the changes then it’s time to get ones that can. We have the AD, and now we can hopefully get the coach. I’m truly thankful for what Farley has done for the program and UNI, but it’s been past time to hang it up and get someone that can handle the new era of college football.

That's where I fall on the whole situation. The big quote from the presser that everyone picked up on was, "Maybe we've lost the sight of what the purpose of college athletics is."

All well and good but that ship sailed a long time ago. This was the quote that really made me think, "For me, that's giving Iowa farm kids the chance to go play college football and get a college degree."

That's great but it can't be just that. You can't just rely on Iowa, Minnesota, Illinois and Missouri farm kids to populate the roster. Yeah, I'd like to see Midwestern kids come in here, play football and graduate but if we're interested in getting back to an elite level it needs to be more and I don't think Farley can get us back there. Heck, I don't know if it's even possible.

Harris screwed us, no doubt. But even if Dr. Franklin tries her best it may already be too late. The Dakota schools may already have too big of a head start. UNI owes Farley a huge debt. I believe he has done so many good things that we may never find out. But even just looking at the football stuff, it may have passed him by.

[QCPanther05]

That's where I fall on the whole situation. The big quote from the presser that everyone picked up on was, "Maybe we've lost the sight of what the purpose of college athletics is."

All well and good but that ship sailed a long time ago. This was the quote that really made me think, "For me, that's giving Iowa farm kids the chance to go play college football and get a college degree."

That's great but it can't be just that. You can't just rely on Iowa, Minnesota, Illinois and Missouri farm kids to populate the roster. Yeah, I'd like to see Midwestern kids come in here, play football and graduate but if we're interested in getting back to an elite level it needs to be more and I don't think Farley can get us back there. Heck, I don't know if it's even possible.

Harris screwed us, no doubt. But even if Dr. Franklin tries her best it may already be too late. The Dakota schools may already have too big of a head start. UNI owes Farley a huge debt. I believe he has done so many good things that we may never find out. But even just looking at the football stuff, it may have passed him by.

It’s a very quaint and frankly naive way of looking at college football now. It’s not about educating farm kids. It’s a business now. It’s corporatized like everything else. You have to know the x and o’s, but any high school coach can competently do that. Being a D1 college coach now is so much more than that now. It’s almost not even about college football. Look at Lane Kiffen. I have no idea if that guy can even “coach” at all. But he can sure sell. And it’s paying off for him on the field. Ol Miss is where it’s at this season because he organized huge amounts of money to be paid to players and then has some other guys do all the coaching work when they get there. It’s kind of sick, but the CEO doesn’t make the widgets. He sells the brand.

[nadf.]

That's great but it can't be just that. You can't just rely on Iowa, Minnesota, Illinois and Missouri farm kids to populate the roster. Yeah, I'd like to see Midwestern kids come in here, play football and graduate but if we're interested in getting back to an elite level it needs to be more and I don't think Farley can get us back there. Heck, I don't know if it's even possible.

Harris screwed us, no doubt. But even if Dr. Franklin tries her best it may already be too late. The Dakota schools may already have too big of a head start. UNI owes Farley a huge debt. I believe he has done so many good things that we may never find out. But even just looking at the football stuff, it may have passed him by.

I think you can build a good FCS roster by relying heavily IA, MN, WI, and IL. There are a ton of kids in WI and MN who don't have a good secondary in state option if they don't catch an offer from the Gophs/Badgers. What you can't do is build if you are forced to rely almost entirely on Iowa kids, as UNI is to date.

UNI is now mid-level MVC at best on terms of where it should expect to finish in the MVFC because of where it stands in terms of resources. But all of these schools in the MVFC are about the same when you look at it in the big picture. There are some some at the top that have more money and resources, for are, but it is not nearly as unbalanced as it is elsewhere. Nobody in the MVFC is equivalent to Mississippi State trying to compete with Texas/Alabama/A&M. Nobody in the MVFC is offering life changing money to their players in NIL. If you bring in the right coach, you can still win at UNI. My opinions.

The fact that NDSU won a title for 10 straight years is a good counter argument, but I think that has more to do with the fact that the FCS has become so watered down.

[MVCBeat]

And why would we want to go after a guy that got fired at D2 for losing?

He isn't the coach that made them the premier D2 program and won them 3 titles in 4 years between 2013 and 2017. That was built by That was Mel Tjeerdsma, who retired after 2010 and winning titles in in 98 98 09 and conference titles 96 97 98 99 00 02 03 06 07 08 09 10. Adam Dorrel took over in 2011 and won the conference in 13 14 15 16 18 19 and national titles in 13 15 16. He left after 2016 to go transition ACU from D2 to D1 and failed miserably going 19-32 with his best season being his second season going 6-5. He is now at Central Oklahoma in the D2 world again, where is knows what to do and in his third season has taken them from a below average D2 program to D-1 and ranked in the top 10 while being name COY. Ironically doing so in the same conference at NWMOST. UCO announced a D1 feasibility study less than 2 months ago. It will be interesting to see if he sticks around through that.

Rich Wright never made it past the second round of the playoffs. Yes, he won 3 conference titles riding Tjeerdsma and Dorrel's program but he was handed a Koenigsegg Jesko and turned it into an Oldsmobile Alero in 7 years. He went 7-4 and 6-5 the last two years now that the program is fully his, his players, his coaches, his everything. Finished tied for 5th both years.

Maybe you weren't saying to go after him, but I don't know why else that would be brought up. I'm assuming you just saw the news and assumed it was one of the previous NWMOST coaches, but Rich Wright ain't that guy.

Boy you read A LOT into my intent in one sentence.

I am quite familiar with Northwest Missouri, their history, D2 football and the MIAA. I don't really know what you mean by UCO going from "below average D2 program to D-1" but otherwise this is accurate. UCO's newly renovated stadium is beautiful by the way. Definitely DI caliber, although I don't know if they have the support for DI athletics beyond a few donors and their basketball arena is extremely mediocre. One guy basically funded that entire football facility.

Other people had mentioned the NWMo coach as a possibility and I was simply stating that he was fired by NWMo today.

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Boy you read A LOT into my intent in one sentence.

I am quite familiar with Northwest Missouri, their history, D2 football and the MIAA. I don't really know what you mean by UCO going from "below average D2 program to D-1" but otherwise this is accurate. UCO's newly renovated stadium is beautiful by the way. Definitely DI caliber, although I don't know if they have the support for DI athletics beyond a few donors and their basketball arena is extremely mediocre. One guy basically funded that entire football facility.

Other people had mentioned the NWMo coach as a possibility and I was simply stating that he was fired by NWMo today.

I don't know how D-1 ended up there, it was supposed to be 10-1, because that's their record.

However, as I said they are currently completing a D1 feasibility study and given how the FCS and low end D1 has been going, give it 3 years and that statement will be accurate as well.

Heck, for me to say "below average" is giving them a lot of credit for his first 2 years going 11-11. Since 2000 they - 23 seasons - 17 of them are 6 or less wins. 13 of those were under .500. They have more seasons with 3 or less wins than they do seasons (7) over that time period than seasons with more than 6 wins.

[BCPanther]

How has no one mentioned Ditka?