Coaching Search...who's next? lets hear all the wild speculation

[havok58]

What are people's opinions on when this gets done?

Can they have someone named prior to the Dec 1 signing date?

Monday, Nov 25th would be the ideal date. After MF coaches his last game and before signing date.

Could this get done that quickly? All the coaches are working next 2 weeks.

I don’t think they can get this done that quickly unless they are interviewing internal candidates or unemployed coaches now. All the rest are focusing on the remainder of their seasons, bowl games and playoffs. This probably won’t get done till March possibly.

I am curious to know how many commits will leave too because of Farley’s announcement. We know the CF and area kids will still stay. But the ones that do leave won’t hurt the program because obviously the top tier FCS programs weren’t after them to start with and I’m confident a new coach and staff can either keep them or bring the same or better quality recruits in.

[pnthr53]

I just got a feeling this is going to be quite ugly for wins and losses for longer than I want to think about.

[QCPanther05]

I don’t think they can get this done that quickly unless they are interviewing internal candidates or unemployed coaches now. All the rest are focusing on the remainder of their seasons, bowl games and playoffs. This probably won’t get done till March possibly.

I am curious to know how many commits will leave too because of Farley’s announcement. We know the CF and area kids will still stay. But the ones that do leave won’t hurt the program because obviously the top tier FCS programs weren’t after them to start with and I’m confident a new coach and staff can either keep them or bring the same or better quality recruits in.

Exactly. Do we even want to keep Mark’s commits at this point? I’d rather the new guy build from scratch. Like Dion (much as I don’t like him he was smart to just merciless dump all the deadwood in the program on day 1).

[Panther AC]

I don’t think they can get this done that quickly unless they are interviewing internal candidates or unemployed coaches now. All the rest are focusing on the remainder of their seasons, bowl games and playoffs. This probably won’t get done till March possibly.

I am curious to know how many commits will leave too because of Farley’s announcement. We know the CF and area kids will still stay. But the ones that do leave won’t hurt the program because obviously the top tier FCS programs weren’t after them to start with and I’m confident a new coach and staff can either keep them or bring the same or better quality recruits in.

A new coach will be named before the end of the year.

[havok58]

A new coach will be named before the end of the year.

So an internal candidate or currently unemployed coach it is then.

[clenz]

So an internal candidate or currently unemployed coach it is then.

Possible. However, you realize that coaches interview while in jobs all the time, right? I'm going to guess Mark didn't spring this last Sunday and Megan had no idea it was coming. I'm going to guess, given how quickly the hired an agency, that this has been known for a while and contacts were already being made through back channels, but they couldn't announce the agency to hire for a job until the job technically existed to hire for

Since Scott Frost has been mentioned

He was hired by UCF on December 1st, 2015. Oregon played their final regular season game 4 days before Frost was announced as the UCF head coach. Do you really believe that between 6:33pm central on November 27th (the time that Oregon's final regular season game ended) UCF reach outed to Scott Frost for the first time, asked if he was interested, completed whatever interviews were needed, then negotiated a contract to be their head coach and got him all travel arrangements to Florida to be introduced all by November 30th to make sure he got to Orlando?

Scott Frost to Nebraska broke on December 2nd, 2017. UCF played a game on December 2nd. Against Memphis for the AAC championship. They wont in double ot. That game got over at exactly 4pm Central. You mean between 4pm Central and, well, a time machine to that morning or even December 1st when it started to break that it was going to be official, was the first time Nebraska and Frost had any contact?

[QCPanther05]

Possible. However, you realize that coaches interview while in jobs all the time, right? I'm going to guess Mark didn't spring this last Sunday and Megan had no idea it was coming. I'm going to guess, given how quickly the hired an agency, that this has been known for a while and contacts were already being made through back channels, but they couldn't announce the agency to hire for a job until the job technically existed to hire for

Since Scott Frost has been mentioned

He was hired by UCF on December 1st, 2015. Oregon played their final regular season game 4 days before Frost was announced as the UCF head coach. Do you really believe that between 6:33pm central on November 27th (the time that Oregon's final regular season game ended) UCF reach outed to Scott Frost for the first time, asked if he was interested, completed whatever interviews were needed, then negotiated a contract to be their head coach and got him all travel arrangements to Florida to be introduced all by November 30th to make sure he got to Orlando?

Scott Frost to Nebraska broke on December 2nd, 2017. UCF played a game on December 2nd. Against Memphis for the AAC championship. They wont in double ot. That game got over at exactly 4pm Central. You mean between 4pm Central and, well, a time machine to that morning or even December 1st when it started to break that it was going to be official, was the first time Nebraska and Frost had any contact?

Didn’t news leak of him accepting the job during the game? I remember there being something funky about it.

[clenz]

Didn’t news leak of him accepting the job during the game? I remember there being something funky about it.

I honestly can't remember but it was within sometime within and hour or two of kick off and end of regulation IIRC

I found a replay of the 2017 AAC title game and 3:28 into the broadcast they threw to commercial and the stinger was "All the talk this week around college football has been the coaches. Scott Frost, is he saying hello or is he saying goodbye. Potentially the last game for Scott frost here in Orlando." over b-roll of Scott Frost given coaches for both teams hand shakes and hugs and a cut to a sign in the stands of "Frosty, don't go" with frosty the snowman on it.

I doubt ESPN's official brew (Levy and Griese for that game) would have touched the rumors during the broadcast, but it was right around kick off.


Edit:

Watching the game on hydroseed and looking further. It broke during the game. ESPN asked Frost in the post game interview, on the field, about him taking the Nebraska job "I hate to ask you about this right now, but multiple reports have just come out that you have accepted the Nebraska job, can you tell me anything about that" and he answered with "I'm going to go celebrate with my team"

Nebraksa tweeted
"There is no place like home.

There is no place like Nebraska.

Welcome home, @Coach_Frost."

within seconds of the game ending and then quickly deleted it.

UCF'S official twitter account ,at 4:53 PM (again the game had been over for 53 minutes), posted this with Nebraska replying to it https://x.com/UCF_Football/status/937092499058946049

[clenz]

Finally found a timestamped tweet that was "confirming" what had been insane rumors for days/weeks at that point - including fans camping outside of his parents house to try to ask them.

At 2:23pm, so mid-game, Brett McMurphy tweeted the details of the contract confirming it

https://x.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/937054754340995073

That was confirming the initial reports of Lars Anderson from November 17th of the figures that were "rumored" at that time

https://x.com/LarsAnderson71/status/931683340146696193

That was 3 weeks before the end of the regular season. It also wasn't contact on the 16th or 17th and offer on the 17th. I'd bet they had been working on that since October. Hell, Nebraska didn't even fire Mike Riley until November 27th. So not only was a coach, in-season, interviewing. It was a coach of a team trying to win a national title. And he was interviewing with a team that had a head coach that wasn't even fired yet.

So spare us all the "well it's someone with a job or internal because no way we could hire an active coach"

Maybe it is internal. Maybe it is someone not currently coaching. It would have nothing to do with the season not being over.

[QCPanther05]

I honestly can't remember but it was within sometime within and hour or two of kick off and end of regulation IIRC

I found a replay of the 2017 AAC title game and 3:28 into the broadcast they threw to commercial and the stinger was "All the talk this week around college football has been the coaches. Scott Frost, is he saying hello or is he saying goodbye. Potentially the last game for Scott frost here in Orlando." over b-roll of Scott Frost given coaches for both teams hand shakes and hugs and a cut to a sign in the stands of "Frosty, don't go" with frosty the snowman on it.

I doubt ESPN's official brew (Levy and Griese for that game) would have touched the rumors during the broadcast, but it was right around kick off.


Edit:

Watching the game on hydroseed and looking further. It broke during the game. ESPN asked Frost in the post game interview, on the field, about him taking the Nebraska job "I hate to ask you about this right now, but multiple reports have just come out that you have accepted the Nebraska job, can you tell me anything about that" and he answered with "I'm going to go celebrate with my team"

Nebraksa tweeted
"There is no place like home.

There is no place like Nebraska.

Welcome home, @Coach_Frost."

within seconds of the game ending and then quickly deleted it.

UCF'S official twitter account ,at 4:53 PM (again the game had been over for 53 minutes), posted this with Nebraska replying to it https://x.com/UCF_Football/status/937092499058946049

That’s right! I remember that super awkward interview after the game. That was in such incredibly poor taste to ask that when he was trying to celebrate that game with his team.

['70 Grad]

I remember a similar thing, only it was basketball - Roy Williams, Kansas coach, being asked about the North Carolina job. I think it was a late NCAA tournament game (National Championship?) and his response to the post-game interviewer in the hallway outside of the locker room was, in part, something like "I know that they are telling you in your earpiece to ask that question, but...." The rumor was true. He became the UNC coach. He also went to the KU post-season banquet (but in a very low-key way).

[havok58]

Finally found a timestamped tweet that was "confirming" what had been insane rumors for days/weeks at that point - including fans camping outside of his parents house to try to ask them.

At 2:23pm, so mid-game, Brett McMurphy tweeted the details of the contract confirming it

https://x.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/937054754340995073

That was confirming the initial reports of Lars Anderson from November 17th of the figures that were "rumored" at that time

https://x.com/LarsAnderson71/status/931683340146696193

That was 3 weeks before the end of the regular season. It also wasn't contact on the 16th or 17th and offer on the 17th. I'd bet they had been working on that since October. Hell, Nebraska didn't even fire Mike Riley until November 27th. So not only was a coach, in-season, interviewing. It was a coach of a team trying to win a national title. And he was interviewing with a team that had a head coach that wasn't even fired yet.

So spare us all the "well it's someone with a job or internal because no way we could hire an active coach"

Maybe it is internal. Maybe it is someone not currently coaching. It would have nothing to do with the season not being over.

Thanks for the research and “advice.”

I realize coaches have people that keep them in the loop for potential job openings, but to me, coaching is a job that requires a lot of dedication during the season. So if a coach can find a day during the season or playoffs to leave their team to visit a potential new job, see the facilities first hand and have formal and informal interviews with staff there, obviously their minds aren’t completely with their current team and the next game. And if the counter argument is these coaches can do Zoom interviews, true. But this is just my opinion, if I’m a coach, interested in a new job, I want to show up in person, see the facilities, meet and talk to people during the interview process. Why waste an hour or two on a Zoom interview, then do further inperson research at a later date and decide the facilities or “vibe” isn’t right for me. I’ve just wasted my time and their time.

Since UNI administrators and Farley have stressed the importance of finding someone that reflects UNI’s values, I don’t think that can be found via Zoom, which is why I stated the process may not be done until February, unless UNI is solely interviewing internal candidates and unemployed coaches who both have the time for this process.

[BCPanther]

Thanks for the research and “advice.”

I realize coaches have people that keep them in the loop for potential job openings, but to me, coaching is a job that requires a lot of dedication during the season. So if a coach can find a day during the season or playoffs to leave their team to visit a potential new job, see the facilities first hand and have formal and informal interviews with staff there, obviously their minds aren’t completely with their current team and the next game. And if the counter argument is these coaches can do Zoom interviews, true. But this is just my opinion, if I’m a coach, interested in a new job, I want to show up in person, see the facilities, meet and talk to people during the interview process. Why waste an hour or two on a Zoom interview, then do further inperson research at a later date and decide the facilities or “vibe” isn’t right for me. I’ve just wasted my time and their time.

Since UNI administrators and Farley have stressed the importance of finding someone that reflects UNI’s values, I don’t think that can be found via Zoom, which is why I stated the process may not be done until February, unless UNI is solely interviewing internal candidates and unemployed coaches who both have the time for this process.

If we don't have a coach until February we might as well not field a team next year.

This is going to be, and has to be, done quick. Portal opens on December 2nd and signing day is December 4th.

[nadf.]

These days, any program serious about football these days cannot have their job open for months. It took, what, three days for Deboer to be announced at Alabama? And then it took UW less than a week to hire Fisch?

Yes, there are unserious problems like Iowa that leave their OC position open for 6 months during a time when receipts and transfer targets were trying to figure out what the heck they were going to do.

So I guess we'll learn something about the administration as we wait and see how long it takes them to get a coach in place.

[Panther AC]

These days, any program serious about football these days cannot have their job open for months. It took, what, three days for Deboer to be announced at Alabama? And then it took UW less than a week to hire Fisch?

Yes, there are unserious problems like Iowa that leave their OC position open for 6 months during a time when receipts and transfer targets were trying to figure out what the heck they were going to do.

So I guess we'll learn something about the administration as we wait and see how long it takes them to get a coach in place.

Hilarious auto-correct, equating "receipts" with "recruits," although in this day and age of NIL, receipts and recruits are not that far apart!