BracketBusters

[Siena Q]

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Question for Siena fans:

What kind of crowd can we expect at the game? How big is your basketball facility, does it routinely sell out, etc? Thanks[/QUOTE]

Kind of what I expected ... we have out share of posters who just are in it to stir things up.

Siena plays in an arena that they have configured to seat around 8k. They've averaged around 7k for the year, but that number is a little bit distorted by an intra-city game with UAlbany that drew around 15k. (if I remember correctly) Obviously the entire arena was open for that game.

I would expect in the 7k to 7500 range for this game, maybe more depending on the start time. If it's a 7:00 start, the place will sell out. I think I read yesterday that the game takes place during Siena's winter break, so there probably wont be very many students.

Best of luck from now until the game, would love to see two teams on long winning streaks and dominating their respective leagues matchup ... should be a great game.

[clenz]

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Don't let it bother you. We are glad to have you here, and look forward to the match-up.

We saw the same thing from Clenz before the BYU and Richmond football games, as well as our Drake basketball game. He goes onto another message board to fight the good fight for UNI, and comes back complaining about the lack of respect UNI is getting.


Question for Siena fans:

What kind of crowd can we expect at the game? How big is your basketball facility, does it routinely sell out, etc? Thanks

I'm actually not registered at said sites.

[jman2004]

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We saw the same thing from Clenz before the BYU and Richmond football games, as well as our Drake basketball game. He goes onto another message board to fight the good fight for UNI, and comes back complaining about the lack of respect UNI is getting.

In all actuality, UNI was getting plenty 'lack of respect' from Siena bloggers and posters before anyone from this site replied to any of them.

I know what you're saying, US vs. THEM mentality, but in this situation, I'll remind you that Siena fans came on THIS board first, whining about how screwed they were by ESPN for having to play our lowly Panthers.

I'm not attacking their fanbase, clenz ins't necessarily either, we're just asking them to look a little closer at our resume and realize that ESPN did in fact, reward them with one hell of a match-up!

I think they have now, for the most part, and we're all over it.

[clenz]

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In all actuality, UNI was getting plenty 'lack of respect' from Siena bloggers and posters before anyone from this site replied to any of them.

I know what you're saying, US vs. THEM mentality, but in this situation, I'll remind you that Siena fans came on THIS board first, whining about how screwed they were by ESPN for having to play our lowly Panthers.

I'm not attacking their fanbase, clenz ins't necessarily either, we're just asking them to look a little closer at our resume and realize that ESPN did in fact, reward them with one hell of a match-up!

I think they have now, for the most part, and we're all over it.

Exactly, I may just not have been quite that elequent with it. I saw a post, saying about the same thing you said, by a UNI fan on the Siena board and it got moved to the smack within minutes of it being posted.

[SaintsFan]

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Exactly, I may just not have been quite that elequent with it. I saw a post, saying about the same thing you said, by a UNI fan on the Siena board and it got moved to the smack within minutes of it being posted.

actually the post in question the guy starts out saying something similar to 2004 above... but rapidly digresses into attacking siena fans. and again... i dont know how many times or different ways we can say it... its not intended to be disrespectful to UNI fans or team/program... but there is ZERO doubt in my mind that if UNI was the top ranked home team and they sent the 8th or 9th ranked traveling team to you .. you would be pretty upset. There is NO DOUBT that this is a TOUGH UNI team. Beating UNI means NOTHING along the east coast here as far as recruiting goes... much like you beating Siena means nothing in your recruiting circles. Beyond that ... if UNI can get in the top 50 then both teams have a fair amount to gain with a win.

you guys keep taking it as an insult. Us wanting someone else had NOTHING to do with UNI. If we cant get a shot at a top 50 win ... let us at least get some recruiting exposure. That was our thought. We EXPECT a very TOUGH game. Disrespecting you would be indicating Siena would steam roll you guys which we are NOT doing. This could still work out and in the end i think we all hope it does (and of course hope the Butler/Davdison and St Marys/Utah St games are utter failures :-)

again... no siena fans are intent or even trying to insult you or your program.

question for you folks...

How would Siena draw if this was your home game? Our arena as stated above holds in its configuration around 8,000. With a few quick changes it can hold 15,500. Butler would draw 10k plus for us... maybe as many as 13k. A George Mason game might draw similarly. (Siena averages 6500-7000)

UNI will probably draw 7,500 because the average shmoe on the east coast streets doesnt know your program. I would venture to guess it would be similar if Siena traveled there... ie.. not many people even know who Siena is. I see you guys average 3,734 at home. My guess that MAYBE 4k come out if you hyped it

[Kyle]

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actually the post in question the guy starts out saying something similar to 2004 above... but rapidly digresses into attacking siena fans. and again... i dont know how many times or different ways we can say it... its not intended to be disrespectful to UNI fans or team/program... but there is ZERO doubt in my mind that if UNI was the top ranked home team and they sent the 8th or 9th ranked traveling team to you .. you would be pretty upset. There is NO DOUBT that this is a TOUGH UNI team. Beating UNI means NOTHING along the east coast here as far as recruiting goes... much like you beating Siena means nothing in your recruiting circles. Beyond that ... if UNI can get in the top 50 then both teams have a fair amount to gain with a win.

you guys keep taking it as an insult. Us wanting someone else had NOTHING to do with UNI. If we cant get a shot at a top 50 win ... let us at least get some recruiting exposure. That was our thought. We EXPECT a very TOUGH game. Disrespecting you would be indicating Siena would steam roll you guys which we are NOT doing. This could still work out and in the end i think we all hope it does (and of course hope the Butler/Davdison and St Marys/Utah St games are utter failures :-)

again... no siena fans are intent or even trying to insult you or your program.

question for you folks...

How would Siena draw if this was your home game? Our arena as stated above holds in its configuration around 8,000. With a few quick changes it can hold 15,500. Butler would draw 10k plus for us... maybe as many as 13k. A George Mason game might draw similarly. (Siena averages 6500-7000)

UNI will probably draw 7,500 because the average shmoe on the east coast streets doesnt know your program. I would venture to guess it would be similar if Siena traveled there... ie.. not many people even know who Siena is. I see you guys average 3,734 at home. My guess that MAYBE 4k come out if you hyped it

We would probably get about 5,500. The 3,700 figure isn't a good representation because, as you know, we were awful in the non-conference. Since game 6 of our 11 game winning streak we have only had two home games and they drew 4,536 and 5,143. Both of those were weekday games, so the jury is still our about our weekend crowds with this team and this winning streak. I'm guessing we will have about 6,200 for this weekends game against Creighton.

[jman2004]

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you guys keep taking it as an insult. Us wanting someone else had NOTHING to do with UNI. If we cant get a shot at a top 50 win ... let us at least get some recruiting exposure.

We very well may have an RPI of 50 or better at the time we play you . . . why do you insist on ignoring this concept?

[TravelingPanther]

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We very well may have an RPI of 50 or better at the time we play you . . . why do you insist on ignoring this concept?

Gotta read him more carefully j.

End of the first paragraph, right before the part you quoted he says:

Beyond that ... if UNI can get in the top 50 then both teams have a fair amount to gain with a win.

[jman2004]

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Gotta read him more carefully j.

End of the first paragraph, right before the part you quoted he says:

I know, but that's the point. This is the first time he has acknowledged it and even now, it's buried in the middle of "poor us" rhetoric.

We are the best match-up they could've been given. Always have been. They should be excited. Unless they're scared they will lose . . .

[clenz]

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Gotta read him more carefully j.

End of the first paragraph, right before the part you quoted he says:

It would be easier to pick up on if their posts weren't riddled with...OMGZ!?!?! UNI?!? WTF We deserve Dookz or Bulter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whoa is us!

[SaintsFan]

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It would be easier to pick up on if their posts weren't riddled with...OMGZ!?!?! UNI?!? WTF We deserve Dookz or Bulter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whoa is us!

maybe out where you folks are Duke = Butler... but not here... not even close. Maybe thats the problem.

If Duke = Butler than i retract any request to play them... but im thinking thats not the case.

regarding fear...

none here.

if your team dictates the pace of the game you have a good shot at winning. If you cant dictate the pace... contrary to what one of your posters stated... you WILL get run off the floor.

As we near the matchup ill do a team vs team comparssion but at this point i see noone on your roster capable of covering Franklin or Ubiles... i also question the ability of your pg/sg to cover Moore and Hasbrouck. Conversely.. your front court size is a concern if you can dictate pace. Your three point shooting is another concern.

[DrewDog]

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at this point i see noone on your roster capable of covering Franklin or Ubiles... i also question the ability of your pg/sg to cover Moore and Hasbrouck. Conversely.. your front court size is a concern if you can dictate pace. Your three point shooting is another concern.

Only a fool speaks in absolutes with college sports.

[ubuntuCAT]

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As we near the matchup ill do a team vs team comparssion but at this point i see noone on your roster capable of covering Franklin or Ubiles... i also question the ability of your pg/sg to cover Moore and Hasbrouck. Conversely.. your front court size is a concern if you can dictate pace. Your three point shooting is another concern.

How many leading scorers has UNI basically shut down so far this year?

[jman2004]

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How many leading scorers has UNI basically shut down so far this year?

Don't ask him . . . he doesn't have a CLUE!

[SteinPizza]

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We are the best match-up they could've been given. Always have been. They should be excited. Unless they're scared they will lose . . .

To Drew's point, the above speaks in absolutes, and is subjective. They don't have to be excited. So be it if they aren't. It's up to us, and them, to keep winning so the winner of the game is in a better position going into March. Nothing more, nothing less.